It's hard to recall exactly when and where I started doing mass approaches. But I do know it was at the bars. It just seemed more normal to approach women there. It was encouraged by the seduction community however to approach women everywhere, like at malls, stores, bus stops, etc. And I did that too eventually. But to start off I hit the bars and clubs. I approached women dancing in their groups. I approached women sitting down talking to each other. I approached women standing around talking to each other. I chatted up women in the the lineups. I chatted women who were on their way to the washroom (although it probably would have been better approaching them when they were leaving the washroom, as they may have had to pee real bad). I sometimes danced near girls trying to attract them. I also approached women as they were waiting for drinks at the bar, but it wasn't really approaching as I would usually (conveniently) get a drink at the same time. I found it worked pretty well as it was a more relaxed scenario, and besides they weren't going to walk away until they got their drink so it bought me time.

My openers consisted of "Hey, what's up", or something situational. There were quite a few bomb outs. Like girls waving me away in a dismissive fashion, telling me their friend isn't interested, outright ignoring me, or the classic where they have to "go to the washroom". I did get phased at first but got progressively ballsier and stuck around even in the face of rejection. For the ones that ignored me I sometimes repeated myself louder and louder until they acknowledged me or walked away. I eventually developed certain defenses. For instance, if they dismissed me or ignored me I would tell them to stop talking so much, or that I'm glad that I could come by to cheer them up because they look so serious. If they used the washroom line on me I would give them directions in case they couldn't find it. One time a girl told me that she had to leave real soon so I asked her if it was because she was going to turn into a pumpkin. There was tons of examples like that. I did manage to insult a few girls along the way but it was never really intentional. I think it was just my resentment and misogyny about the whole thing surfacing. But I tried to keep positive overall and over time the responses did get quite a bit better as I learned to better calibrate the situations.

Rejecting Canned Material For Authentic Conversation

I did have a rule though. If they walked away I wouldn't follow them. But if they stuck around then I kept talking until it became clear it wasn't going anywhere. I was never a fan of routines and canned material, the kind promoted by the seduction community. I preferred to think on the spot as I felt that in the long run you would have to do that anyway. I actually did try some routines for a while like the Best Friends routine where you ask a pair of girls if they are best friends, and if they look at each other (they always do) you can say that they are best friends and you know that because they looked at each other. It makes you look cooler. There was other canned material that I tried out but none of it worked that well. I figured that the reason was because once you deliver the material what are you left with? Nothing. And then how do you proceed from there? You basically set yourself up into a character which you have to keep going otherwise the girls will smell a rat and ditch you. So much better to use your own conversation pieces and keep it fluid. When breaking the ice with women, authenticity matters far more than rehearsed lines.

One thing that I quickly learned about was the concept of "state". To get into state you had to do approaches to warm up your mind. It was kind of like stretching before running. And I found that when I was in state the approaches seemed to flow. It was like, if you get a few rejections out of the way, you really loosen up and get into the zone. And success will more likely ensue. Other members of the seduction community were basically in agreement on this phenomenon. It was funny because while "in state" you could attract single girls and charm them with your confidence but once you went back to your normal self you couldn't attract those same girls anymore. But they had no way of knowing that the cool funny guy they met was a product of approach momentum. So if you met them for a date later they might see you as being someone different than before, which can lead to problems. More on that later.

Understanding The Power Of Momentum And State

The real insight here is that meeting women in bars and clubs requires efficiency and clear strategy, not just random approaches. Your state and momentum matter because rejection becomes less painful once you've experienced it multiple times. The first few "no's" sting, but by the time you've been told "go away" a dozen times in one night, you stop caring so much. That's when the real work begins. That's when you're not trying to impress anyone or prove anything—you're just naturally talking to women and seeing what happens. The concept is simple but powerful: the more you do it, the easier it gets, and approach anxiety gradually fades through consistent exposure and practice rather than through reading or theorizing.